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> <channel><title>Comments on: The economy&#8217;s great and here drink this kool-aid</title> <atom:link href="http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/</link> <description>"The Study of Reality"</description> <lastBuildDate>Wed, 07 Oct 2009 18:09:50 +0000</lastBuildDate> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0</generator> <item><title>By: Realitology &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reflecting on my economic collapse post from last year</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-237</link> <dc:creator>Realitology &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Reflecting on my economic collapse post from last year</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 19:00:34 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-237</guid> <description>[...] August 15 2007 I wrote this post about the impending economic collapse and how the prez was lying and saying that the economy was fine. Well, I&#8217;ll be damned if it [...]</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] August 15 2007 I wrote this post about the impending economic collapse and how the prez was lying and saying that the economy was fine. Well, I&#8217;ll be damned if it [...]</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: JollyRoger</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-134</link> <dc:creator>JollyRoger</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 05:39:10 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-134</guid> <description>&lt;i&gt;Yep, I’m afraid he’ll walk away scott-free just like they all do. He’ll write a book, go on the speaking circuit...&lt;/i&gt;Got to be able to write and speak to do either of those things. Chimpy&#039;s dementia gets worse every day; he&#039;ll be lucky to be able to say &quot;goodbye&quot; by the time 2009 gets here.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Yep, I’m afraid he’ll walk away scott-free just like they all do. He’ll write a book, go on the speaking circuit&#8230;</i></p><p>Got to be able to write and speak to do either of those things. Chimpy&#8217;s dementia gets worse every day; he&#8217;ll be lucky to be able to say &#8220;goodbye&#8221; by the time 2009 gets here.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Tengrain</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-132</link> <dc:creator>Tengrain</dc:creator> <pubDate>Fri, 17 Aug 2007 01:28:46 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-132</guid> <description>An excellent post, and I thank Fairlane for recommending reading this.I still maintain that the secret (or not so secret) GOP plan all along has been to bankrupt the country, just destroy the economy completely, because then and only then can all the &quot;entitlement programs&quot; have to be defunded, and never started again.Regards,Tengrain</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An excellent post, and I thank Fairlane for recommending reading this.</p><p>I still maintain that the secret (or not so secret) GOP plan all along has been to bankrupt the country, just destroy the economy completely, because then and only then can all the &#8220;entitlement programs&#8221; have to be defunded, and never started again.</p><p>Regards,</p><p>Tengrain</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Realitology</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-131</link> <dc:creator>Realitology</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:21:28 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-131</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush talks about a tax cut to corporations and we are having problems with the mortgage companies. Our Federal Reserve has started to put millions into our banks and the Commercial Paper is becoming a problem.&lt;/blockquote&gt;The lenders brought this all on themselves. I&#039;ve been involved in that market for years and have seen it first hand. They *chose* to extend credit to people who had no business having it. Now when it all crashes down, we the taxpayers will be left footing the bill once again. Yeah, take personal responsibility my ass!Once we came off the gold standard, the federal reserve became legal counterfeiters. Just print more money and everything will be fine. Before long we&#039;re gonna have to start getting loans from Brazil and Mexico instead of the other way around.Don&#039;t ever forget that Reagan took us from being the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world. All in 8 short years. Quite an accomplishment! Thanks Dutch!Grand-master Bush is just extending the mess and the butt-fuck of the country.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>Bush talks about a tax cut to corporations and we are having problems with the mortgage companies. Our Federal Reserve has started to put millions into our banks and the Commercial Paper is becoming a problem.</p></blockquote><p>The lenders brought this all on themselves. I&#8217;ve been involved in that market for years and have seen it first hand. They *chose* to extend credit to people who had no business having it. Now when it all crashes down, we the taxpayers will be left footing the bill once again. Yeah, take personal responsibility my ass!</p><p>Once we came off the gold standard, the federal reserve became legal counterfeiters. Just print more money and everything will be fine. Before long we&#8217;re gonna have to start getting loans from Brazil and Mexico instead of the other way around.</p><p>Don&#8217;t ever forget that Reagan took us from being the largest creditor nation in the world to the largest debtor nation in the world. All in 8 short years. Quite an accomplishment! Thanks Dutch!</p><p>Grand-master Bush is just extending the mess and the butt-fuck of the country.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Realitology</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-130</link> <dc:creator>Realitology</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:12:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-130</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;“How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.”What in the Hell do such statements mean? We’re all victims in this madness. Such statements are so vague they are essentially meaningless and amount to nothing more than parroted slogans.It’s easy for Millionaires to tell people to “take responsibility” when they know in their world there’s no such thing.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I also agree with your cynical viewpoint of that statement. If &lt;em&gt;everyone &lt;/em&gt;took &quot;responsibility&quot; to heart then we&#039;d all be in better shape. But you&#039;re also correct that the &quot;take personal responsibility&quot; mantra is often used by the powerful to make the regular and/or poor folks cut their own throats and be happy doing it.It&#039;s easy to complain about welfare bums and all that, but most corps have no qualms about taking millions or billions in subsidies and bailouts do they? It&#039;s welfare just the same, but what&#039;s good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander in their eyes.Additionally, as I noted in the original post, the same corporation and people complaining about unions, welfare, social programs, education, etc. often have a vested interest in keeping the regular guy down. And it&#039;s sad and amazing how the regular folks have fallen for it and are actively participating in their own demise. Hello Stockholm syndrome.Look at the history of the world. It&#039;s been kings and the elite that have traditionally controlled everything. There was a brief period in the US (and other western countries) after WW2 when the regular guy started to get ahead and actually have a decent life (largely due to good paying blue collar jobs, unions, and GI bill education). That peaked in the 60&#039;s and has been going downhill ever since. The elite are taking control once again and the common man, the serf, is glad to help them along.I guarantee that one enron, worldcom, or savings and loan collapse, has caused more pain, suffering, and wasted money, than all the welfare payments and unions combined. Personal responsibility indeed!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>“How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.”</p><p>What in the Hell do such statements mean? We’re all victims in this madness. Such statements are so vague they are essentially meaningless and amount to nothing more than parroted slogans.</p><p>It’s easy for Millionaires to tell people to “take responsibility” when they know in their world there’s no such thing.</p></blockquote><p>I also agree with your cynical viewpoint of that statement. If <em>everyone </em>took &#8220;responsibility&#8221; to heart then we&#8217;d all be in better shape. But you&#8217;re also correct that the &#8220;take personal responsibility&#8221; mantra is often used by the powerful to make the regular and/or poor folks cut their own throats and be happy doing it.</p><p>It&#8217;s easy to complain about welfare bums and all that, but most corps have no qualms about taking millions or billions in subsidies and bailouts do they? It&#8217;s welfare just the same, but what&#8217;s good for the goose is obviously not good for the gander in their eyes.</p><p>Additionally, as I noted in the original post, the same corporation and people complaining about unions, welfare, social programs, education, etc. often have a vested interest in keeping the regular guy down. And it&#8217;s sad and amazing how the regular folks have fallen for it and are actively participating in their own demise. Hello Stockholm syndrome.</p><p>Look at the history of the world. It&#8217;s been kings and the elite that have traditionally controlled everything. There was a brief period in the US (and other western countries) after WW2 when the regular guy started to get ahead and actually have a decent life (largely due to good paying blue collar jobs, unions, and GI bill education). That peaked in the 60&#8242;s and has been going downhill ever since. The elite are taking control once again and the common man, the serf, is glad to help them along.</p><p>I guarantee that one enron, worldcom, or savings and loan collapse, has caused more pain, suffering, and wasted money, than all the welfare payments and unions combined. Personal responsibility indeed!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Larry</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-129</link> <dc:creator>Larry</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:05:25 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-129</guid> <description>I was talking with Countrywide about a 100% investment loan for a Apartment unit I&#039;ve been considering for some time now.  I heard today that they are asking for 11 billion dollars of credit.  What happened to the assets they say that they had just last week?The sub-primes will bounce back maybe one of these days, but I am not waiting for it or this mortgage company to stay afloat.Bush talks about a tax cut to corporations and we are having problems with the mortgage companies.  Our Federal Reserve has started to put millions into our banks and the Commercial Paper is becoming a problem.
This President as all has stated, will walk away trying to put the blame for his mess on the Democrats,  as he did just before he came into office.  Remember before he became President he started saying that we were headed for financial troubles.
He has been America&#039;s financial troubles!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was talking with Countrywide about a 100% investment loan for a Apartment unit I&#8217;ve been considering for some time now.  I heard today that they are asking for 11 billion dollars of credit.  What happened to the assets they say that they had just last week?</p><p>The sub-primes will bounce back maybe one of these days, but I am not waiting for it or this mortgage company to stay afloat.</p><p>Bush talks about a tax cut to corporations and we are having problems with the mortgage companies.  Our Federal Reserve has started to put millions into our banks and the Commercial Paper is becoming a problem.<br
/> This President as all has stated, will walk away trying to put the blame for his mess on the Democrats,  as he did just before he came into office.  Remember before he became President he started saying that we were headed for financial troubles.<br
/> He has been America&#8217;s financial troubles!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: fairlane</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-128</link> <dc:creator>fairlane</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 19:16:41 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-128</guid> <description>&quot;Yep, I’m afraid he’ll walk away scott-free just like they all do.&quot;I wonder about that sometimes. Will he leave?&quot;How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.&quot;What in the Hell do such statements mean? We&#039;re all victims in this madness. Such statements are so vague they are essentially meaningless and amount to nothing more than parroted slogans.It&#039;s easy for Millionaires to tell people to &quot;take responsibility&quot; when they know in their world there&#039;s no such thing.If these fucks running our country were in the business world, on their own, they&#039;d be fucked fucks.They manipulate and shape reality to suit themselves and then tell us &quot;it&#039;s your fault.&quot;What makes it worse is they enlist the poor to spread &quot;Their Message.&quot;Reps still fixate on &quot;Welfare,&quot; yeah that&#039;s what is killing this country. It&#039;s not Corporate Greed or a Government that uses the Constitution like a diaper. No, it&#039;s the poor, it&#039;s the Unions, it&#039;s people that have nothing. They&#039;re responsible because we all know they are the ones who have the real power.Why not just say, &quot;Do something?&quot; It has as much meaning.This shit going on isn&#039;t an accident, and only a goddamned fool thinks or believes that it is.Personally, I believe anyone who supports the Reps or Dems is a fucking traitor.I&#039;m finished for a minute.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Yep, I’m afraid he’ll walk away scott-free just like they all do.&#8221;</p><p>I wonder about that sometimes. Will he leave?</p><p>&#8220;How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.&#8221;</p><p>What in the Hell do such statements mean? We&#8217;re all victims in this madness. Such statements are so vague they are essentially meaningless and amount to nothing more than parroted slogans.</p><p>It&#8217;s easy for Millionaires to tell people to &#8220;take responsibility&#8221; when they know in their world there&#8217;s no such thing.</p><p>If these fucks running our country were in the business world, on their own, they&#8217;d be fucked fucks.</p><p>They manipulate and shape reality to suit themselves and then tell us &#8220;it&#8217;s your fault.&#8221;</p><p>What makes it worse is they enlist the poor to spread &#8220;Their Message.&#8221;</p><p>Reps still fixate on &#8220;Welfare,&#8221; yeah that&#8217;s what is killing this country. It&#8217;s not Corporate Greed or a Government that uses the Constitution like a diaper. No, it&#8217;s the poor, it&#8217;s the Unions, it&#8217;s people that have nothing. They&#8217;re responsible because we all know they are the ones who have the real power.</p><p>Why not just say, &#8220;Do something?&#8221; It has as much meaning.</p><p>This shit going on isn&#8217;t an accident, and only a goddamned fool thinks or believes that it is.</p><p>Personally, I believe anyone who supports the Reps or Dems is a fucking traitor.</p><p>I&#8217;m finished for a minute.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Realitology</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-126</link> <dc:creator>Realitology</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 18:42:50 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-126</guid> <description>&lt;blockquote&gt;How about we quit rewarding mediocrity in this country. How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.&lt;/blockquote&gt;I totally agree. In many ways I think we&#039;ve turned into a nation of sniveling, weak, cry-babies. Of course there&#039;s plenty in the world to cry about, and often government and corporations make it worse or are themselves to blame for it.To me it all comes down to selfishness. People tend to make decisions based on what they want without considering its impact on other people, later generations, the earth, society, etc. It&#039;s all about &quot;I want it now&quot; in the true 5 year old mentality.I read this somewhere and I try to abide by it at all times...&quot;The decision that benefits the most people in the most ways is the correct decision.&quot;There&#039;s also a saying I&#039;ve heard attributed to different native american populations...&quot;Before you make a decision, consider how it will affect the children 7 generations in the future.&quot;&lt;blockquote&gt;Third parties are our only hope, vote for anyone NOT a dem or repub.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Unfortunately, they&#039;ve pretty well rigged it so it&#039;s impossible for a 3rd party to have a chance. But I agree with you. And personally I&#039;ve never voted for a dem or rep presidential candidate in my life. It&#039;s always been a 3rd party. That&#039;s a whole other post in itself.&lt;blockquote&gt;Bush will walk away (I hope) in 09 and basically declare bankruptcy as far as his responsibility for our economy. &lt;/blockquote&gt;
Yep, I&#039;m afraid he&#039;ll walk away scott-free just like they all do. He&#039;ll write a book, go on the speaking circuit, get on a few boards and consultancies, and will make millions. Meanwhile the rest of us will be working in the salt mines paying for his indiscretions.People have the power to change things (I think there&#039;s still a chance) but they probably won&#039;t.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>How about we quit rewarding mediocrity in this country. How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility.</p></blockquote><p>I totally agree. In many ways I think we&#8217;ve turned into a nation of sniveling, weak, cry-babies. Of course there&#8217;s plenty in the world to cry about, and often government and corporations make it worse or are themselves to blame for it.</p><p>To me it all comes down to selfishness. People tend to make decisions based on what they want without considering its impact on other people, later generations, the earth, society, etc. It&#8217;s all about &#8220;I want it now&#8221; in the true 5 year old mentality.</p><p>I read this somewhere and I try to abide by it at all times&#8230;&#8221;The decision that benefits the most people in the most ways is the correct decision.&#8221;</p><p>There&#8217;s also a saying I&#8217;ve heard attributed to different native american populations&#8230;&#8221;Before you make a decision, consider how it will affect the children 7 generations in the future.&#8221;</p><blockquote><p>Third parties are our only hope, vote for anyone NOT a dem or repub.</p></blockquote><p>Unfortunately, they&#8217;ve pretty well rigged it so it&#8217;s impossible for a 3rd party to have a chance. But I agree with you. And personally I&#8217;ve never voted for a dem or rep presidential candidate in my life. It&#8217;s always been a 3rd party. That&#8217;s a whole other post in itself.</p><blockquote><p>Bush will walk away (I hope) in 09 and basically declare bankruptcy as far as his responsibility for our economy.</p></blockquote><p>Yep, I&#8217;m afraid he&#8217;ll walk away scott-free just like they all do. He&#8217;ll write a book, go on the speaking circuit, get on a few boards and consultancies, and will make millions. Meanwhile the rest of us will be working in the salt mines paying for his indiscretions.</p><p>People have the power to change things (I think there&#8217;s still a chance) but they probably won&#8217;t.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: pissed off patricia</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-125</link> <dc:creator>pissed off patricia</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:34:38 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-125</guid> <description>Bush will walk away (I hope) in 09 and basically declare bankruptcy as far as his responsibility for our economy.  We’ll be left looking all confused with our million inch plasma screen tv’s, Ipods and Iphones.  We’ll turn to one another and say, can he do that?  Meanwhile a couple more old bridges fall into the water.  Another coal mine falls in and eats human beings.  And FEMA still can&#039;t find it&#039;s ass with both hands.It&#039;ll be too late then to return the merchandise.Oh yeah, we are truly financially fucked!  Not enough lipstick in the world to make that pretty.And on a happier note, your post was excellent!</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bush will walk away (I hope) in 09 and basically declare bankruptcy as far as his responsibility for our economy.  We’ll be left looking all confused with our million inch plasma screen tv’s, Ipods and Iphones.  We’ll turn to one another and say, can he do that?  Meanwhile a couple more old bridges fall into the water.  Another coal mine falls in and eats human beings.  And FEMA still can&#8217;t find it&#8217;s ass with both hands.</p><p>It&#8217;ll be too late then to return the merchandise.</p><p>Oh yeah, we are truly financially fucked!  Not enough lipstick in the world to make that pretty.</p><p>And on a happier note, your post was excellent!</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: ClapSo</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-124</link> <dc:creator>ClapSo</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 15:14:55 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-124</guid> <description>Dead on! Those idiots in washingtOOn are screwing us but good!Third parties are our only hope, vote for anyone NOT a dem or repub.The scientifically impossible I do right away
The spiritually miraculous takes a bit longer</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dead on! Those idiots in washingtOOn are screwing us but good!</p><p>Third parties are our only hope, vote for anyone NOT a dem or repub.</p><p>The scientifically impossible I do right away<br
/> The spiritually miraculous takes a bit longer</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> <item><title>By: Chad</title><link>http://realitology.com/politics/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-123</link> <dc:creator>Chad</dc:creator> <pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 05:35:40 +0000</pubDate> <guid
isPermaLink="false">http://realitology.com/consumerism/the-economys-great-and-here-drink-this-kool-aid/#comment-123</guid> <description>Hey homey,
It&#039;s not just the war; it&#039;s the pork-n-titlement program and definitely (like you said) the spend all you want, someone else will make more mentality. I suppose it&#039;s a lot easier to spend the money when it&#039;s someone else&#039;s money you&#039;re spending and when you can simply vote yourself a raise whenever the mood strikes you. Here&#039;s a couple of ideas: How about we quit rewarding mediocrity in this country. How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility. That&#039;d be nice. One very pragmatic suggestion, if we could control the price of energy in this country that&#039;d go a long way toward bringing the price of goods and services down. But the American people haven&#039;t the backbone to do what&#039;s necessary to make that happen. It&#039;s supply and demand...like you said, holmes, we want it all and we want it now.</description> <content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey homey,<br
/> It&#8217;s not just the war; it&#8217;s the pork-n-titlement program and definitely (like you said) the spend all you want, someone else will make more mentality. I suppose it&#8217;s a lot easier to spend the money when it&#8217;s someone else&#8217;s money you&#8217;re spending and when you can simply vote yourself a raise whenever the mood strikes you. Here&#8217;s a couple of ideas: How about we quit rewarding mediocrity in this country. How about we drop the victim mentality and take a little personal responsibility. That&#8217;d be nice. One very pragmatic suggestion, if we could control the price of energy in this country that&#8217;d go a long way toward bringing the price of goods and services down. But the American people haven&#8217;t the backbone to do what&#8217;s necessary to make that happen. It&#8217;s supply and demand&#8230;like you said, holmes, we want it all and we want it now.</p> ]]></content:encoded> </item> </channel> </rss>
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